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OfflineIs it acceptable to Trade Mike Trout & Bobby Abreu for Troy Tulowitzki, Devin Mesoraco & JD Martinez?
I am thinking this is a good sell high deal for me & I get 2 "prospects" back while getting younger.
its a 12 owner league with 30 player rosters & all our keeper.
& it has OF spots seperated so I do lose 1 of my CF eligible players but I do have McCutchen & Austin Jackson.
OfflineWell I'd have a hard time moving Trout…but Abreu needs to be off your roster…he's getting too old! Tulo is a nice get for you…Mesoraco SHOULD hit (at least for power). JD Martinez I'm not super high on, personally. I think he's a solid player, but I don't expect much out of him above what he did last year. He has a low walk rate vs. his K rate…he only walks roughly 5% of the time while striking out more than 20%. Not a good omen of his plate discipline.
I would think giving up Trout – who is one of the top hitting prospects in the game – you might be able to net a little more in return. Like I said…I like Tulo and Mesoraco…and if you want to look at it like this:
Trout for Tulo and Mesoraco
Abreu for JD Martinez
The trade is a win for you. Tulo is one of the best (probably THE best) SS in the game (when healthy) and Mesoraco can likely be your starting catcher (though I'd want some insurance for him, in case he struggles).
I'm on the fence with this deal…it's not great, it's not horrible….it's in that middle ground somewhere. What's the rest of your roster look like? Who is your current SS???
OfflineThanks for the response.
I ended up doing the trade with another TRADE following it up.
Its a large league
12 teams 30 players (All keeper with no yearly limits)
Hitting Cat. R 2B 3B HR RBI SB BB E AVG
Pitching Cat. W L CG SHO SV K HLD ERA WHIP
C-Alex Avila
1B-Miguel Cabrera
2B-Aaron Hill
3B-Martín Prado
SS-Troy Tulowitzki
IF-Asdrubal Cabrera
LF-Ryan Braun
CF-Andrew McCutchen
RF-Hunter Pence
OF-Matt Holliday
UTIL-Erick Aybar
UTIL-David Murphy
UTIL-Jason Bourgeois
BN-Carlos Lee
BN-Gaby Sánchez
BN-Austin Jackson
BN-Devin Mesoraco
BN-J.D. Martinez
—————–
SP-Justin Verlander
SP-David Price
SP-Zack Greinke
SP-Matt Cain
SP-Michael Pineda
RP-José Valverde
RP-Francisco Cordero
RP-Sean Marshall
RP-Chris Pérez
RP-Neftali Feliz
P-Ryan Vogelsong
P-Bud Norris
BN-Justin Masterson
I am trying to dangle one of
Asdrubal Cabrera / Erick Aybar for an upgrade at 2B/3B since that is where I view my weakness to be. Also would like to add an upgrade a SP & get younger at closer.
This was a keeper league team that I took over for at the begining of the year and have already put my stamp on it.
This is what it looked like when I took over for the previous owner
C-Jarrod Saltalamacchia (FA Pickup by me on first day)
1B-Miguel Cabrera
2B-Martín Prado
3B-Pablo Sandoval
SS-J.J. Hardy (FA Pickup by me on first day)
IF-Tsuyoshi Nishioka (FA Pickup by me on first day)
LF-Ryan Braun
CF-Rajai Davis
RF-Hunter Pence
OF-Bobby Abreu
UT-Carlos Lee
UT-Paul Konerko
UT-Chris Coghlan (FA Pickup by me on first day)
BN-Mike Trout (FA Pickup by me on first day)
BN-Michael Brantley (FA Pickup by me on first day)
BN-Miguel Olivo (FA Pickup by me on first day)
BN-Plácido Polanco
SP-David Price
SP-Justin Verlander
SP-Matt Garza
SP-Zack Greinke
SP-Matt Cain
RP-Francisco Cordero
RP-Chris Pérez
RP-José Valverde
RP-Justin Masterson (FFA Pickup by me on first day)
RP-OPEN
P-Clayton Richard
P-Ted Lilly
BN-J.A. Happ
BN-Michael Pineda
So that means these were the only guys to make it the full season
Miguel Cabrera, Martín Prado, Ryan Braun, Hunter Pence, Carlos Lee, David Price, Justin Verlander, Zack Greinke, Matt Cain, Francisco Cordero, Chris Pérez, José Valverde, Justin Masterson, Michael Pineda
So 16 new bodies in total But I made like 165 transactions throughout the year (4 people had more then me and 2 were right with me…Leader had 450+)
Offlinewow…nice work turning that roster around. I like your team a lot. Starting rotation is insanely good and I like your lineup as well. Only thing I would try to do is maybe upgrade at 3B over Prado and then slide Prado into a UTIL slot (and he should qualify at a couple of positions next year, so you can slide him around as needed if injury takes someone down).
With Tulo, Asdrubal, and Aybar you have a lot of SS depth…maybe you could work on a deal based around either Aybar or Asdrubal and go for someone at 3B.
OfflineThe team now looks like this as my first trade has been completed since the league went back up on Yahoo
C-Alex Avila
1B-Miguel Cabrera
2B-Jason Kipnis
3B-Adrian Beltre
SS-Troy Tulowitzki
IF-Erick Aybar
LF-Ryan Braun
CF-Andrew McCutchen
RF-Hunter Pence
OF-Matt Holliday
UTIL-Martin Prado
UTIL-Austin Jackson
UTIL-Jason Bourgeois
BN-David Murphy
BN-Aaron Hill
BN-Devin Mesoraco
BN-J.D. Martinez
—————–
SP-Justin Verlander
SP-David Price
SP-Zack Greinke
SP-John Danks
SP-Michael Pineda
RP-José Valverde
RP-Ryan Madson
RP-Sean Marshall
RP-Chris Pérez
RP-Neftali Feliz
P-Ryan Vogelsong
P-Bud Norris
BN-Justin Masterson
Not sure what the next move should be…Maybe a 1B…Would like to upgrade from Danks though.
I have waiver claims in on each of Yu Darvish, Yoenis Cespedes & Francisco Cordero also.
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My waiver claim for Yoenis Cespedes managed to go through. Which couldn't have worked out any better. David Murphy was dropped to aqcuire him.
I then began trade talks for Cespedes.
The trade that was accepted by both parties was
sending away Yoenis Cespedes / J.D. Martinez / John Danks
for
bringing in Zack Cozart / Drew Pomeranz / Matt Moore
The team is now looking like this
C- Alex Avila
1B – Miguel Cabrera
2B – Jason Kipnis
3B – Adrian Beltre
SS – Troy Tulowitzki
IF – Erick Aybar
LF – Ryan Braun
CF – Andrew McCutchen
RF – Hunter Pence
OF – Matt Holliday
UT – Martin Prado
UT – Jason Bourgeois
UT – Austin Jackson
BN – Aaron Hill
BN – Devin Mesoraco
BN – Zack Cozart
—————–
SP – Justin Verlander
SP -David Price
SP -Zack Greinke
SP -Michael Pineda
SP -Justin Masterson
RP – Jose Valverde
RP – Sean Marshall
RP – Chris Perez
RP – Neftali Feliz
RP – Ryan Madson
P – Ryan Vogelsong
P – Matt Moore
BN – Bud Norris
BN – Drew Pomeranz
———————————————
I don't know where the next roster improvement will take place though. backup 1B & another OF maybe
Verlander, Price, Greinke, Moore has me very happy
Madson Valverde & Perez are all locks to close until injury strikes. Feliz is a wild card & Marshall will help with Holds But I may need to get another Holds guy and try to jump a few people in this category.
Hitting wise
Miggy will have 1B & 3B elig before its all said & done & he will be fantasy elite at either position
Tulo is a top 3 SS at worst
Beltre is top 5 at a weakened 3B
Kipnis has potential that I am counting on.
the combo of Braun, McCutchen, Pence & Holliday is very solid
Acquiring Devin Mesoraco, Zack Cozart & Drew Pomeranz could be decent. or it could bite me in the butt. Just depends on each's improvement.
Any advice for the next moves?
Offlinesending away Yoenis Cespedes / J.D. Martinez / John Danks
for
bringing in Zack Cozart / Drew Pomeranz / Matt Moore
Nice work on that deal….You look pretty set to me. You've got Hill to plug in just in case you need him (if Kipnis doesn't produce). I guess at this point you are really just looking to make sure you've got enough depth…you've got plenty of starting pitching…maybe you could move your low man on the totem pole there for a quality 1B option or a quality multi-position guy…(I always love to carry mutli-position guys…gives flexibility in case of injury).
Offlinenew shake up for this team again
Sending away
Matt Holliday, Hunter Pence & Bud Norris
Bringing in
Michael Morse, Brett Gardner & Jeremy Hellickson
I am now hurting at RF with only Jason Bourgeois, but I get the Steals & CF ability with Gardner, the all around pop with Morse & another great arm to add to my pen.
Justin Verlander David Price Zack Greinke Michael Pineda Justin Masterson Neftali Feliz Ryan Vogelsong Matt Moore Jeremy Hellickson Drew Pomeranz
I better walk away with the roto pitching catagories
EDIT
new Swap hurts my 2B depth
Sent Aaron Hill
Bring in Tyler Clippard
For some reason I love Tyler Clippard.
I traded with thenumber 2 team from last year.
He is now hurting a bit in the Holds department & I should be around 5th to 6th with Marshall & Clippard instead of fighting for the 10-11-12 spot.
my new holes are RF & 2B while I still want another 1B (Miggy will get 3b elig & Morse will be my 1B…I want to trade Beltre or Prado at some point this year if it is worth while)
The person who brought in Hill has Ackley & Neil Walker so I am not sure hy he suggested the move
If I can pick up an open roster spot or 2 I will add a 2b for the future like Cory Spangenberg or Kolten Wong (or may trade for one since a few are hanging onto the bottom of a roster)
Offlinemy team is ever changing :)
C-Alex Avila
1B-Miguel Cabrera
2B-Jason Kipnis
3B-Adrián Béltre
SS-Troy Tulowitzki
IF-Erick Aybar
LF-Ryan Braun
CF-Andrew McCutchen
RF-Michael Cuddyer
OF-Brett Gardner
UT-Austin Jackson
UT-Zack Cozart
UT-Martín Prado
BENCH-Devin Mesoraco
BENCH-Domonic Brown
SP-Justin Verlander
SP-David Price
SP-Zack Greinke
SP-Justin Masterson
SP-Dan Haren
RP-Sean Marshall
RP-Tyler Clippard
RP-Matt Moore
RP-Francisco Rodríguez
RP-Neftali Feliz
P-Daniel Hudson
P-Jeremy Hellickson
BENCH-Drew Pomeranz
BENCH-Edinson Vólquez
BENCH-Jonathan Sánchez
DL
Jorge De La Rosa
Ryan Madson
Michael Pineda
Ryan Vogelsong
i just traded away Jose Valverde & Michael Morse for Daniel Hudson & Dan Haren
OfflineC-Alex Avila
1B-Miguel Cabrera
2B-Jason Kipnis
3B-Adrián Béltre
SS-Troy Tulowitzki
IF-Erick Aybar
LF-Ryan Braun
CF-Andrew McCutchen
RF-Michael Cuddyer
OF-Austin Jackson
UT-Brandon Belt
UT-Zack Cozart
UT-Martín Prado
BENCH-Devin Mesoraco
BENCH-Domonic Brown
DL
Brett Gardner
SP-Justin Verlander
SP-David Price
SP-Zack Greinke
SP-Jon Lester
SP-Dan Haren
RP-Tyler Clippard
RP-Francisco Rodríguez
RP-Tom Wilhelmsen
RP-OPEN
RP-OPEN
P-Daniel Hudson
P-Jeremy Hellickson
BENCH-Justin Masterson
BENCH-Matt Moore
BENCH-Drew Pomeranz
BENCH-Edinson Vólquez
BENCH-Ryan Vogelsong
DL
Jorge De La Rosa
Ryan Madson
Michael Pineda
Feliz & Marshall were sent packing for Belt, Lester & Wilhelmsen .
I now have no closers unfortunately…But I am a huge fan of my starters. looking to sell a Hellickson Grienke or price for a solid bat & maybe some pen arms.
One manager has thrown out the Idea of trading me Michael Young for Adrian Beltre but I am not sure if I want that. Beltre is one of my trade chips & Young brings added versatility with his 1B/2B/3B elig..But I want to get younger through my trades. Any thoughts on whether this deal would be beneficial?
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Offlinebobellis75 said
If i"m you I don't move Beltre….I wouldn't rush into moving a really good starting pitcher for a closer either…if the right deal comes up, sure, but you might be able to pick up a closer off the waivers as guys often get hurt or lose their closer jobs and are replaced by someone not on a roster.
Thanks.
around the top 3 relievers for each team (the closer & next in line) are already on squads.
Tom Wilhelmsen quality arms are all that are on the FA wire due to this being such a deep league with 9 of 12 managers being active (most are on multiple times each day).
I just released Dom Brown & picked up Mitchell Boggs though.
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OfflineJust had a big trade proposed & I accepted.
My new squad looks like this.
C-Alex Avila
1B-Miguel Cabrera
2B-Jason Kipnis
3B-Michael Young
SS-Troy Tulowitzki
IF-Martin Prado
LF-Ryan Braun
CF-Josh Hamilton
RF-Michael Cuddyer
OF-Andrew McCutchen
UT-Austin Jackson
UT-Josh Reddick
UT-Zack Cozart
BENCH-Brandon Belt
BENCH-Erick Aybar
BENCH-Devin Mesoraco
DL-Brett Gardner
SP-Justin Verlander
SP-David Price
SP-Jon Lester
SP-Matt Moore
SP-Edinson Volquez
RP-Rafael Dolis
RP-Joaquin Benoit
RP-Tyler Clippard
RP-Tim Byrdak
RP- OPEN
P-Justin Masterson
P-Jeremy Hellickson
BENCH-Ryan Vogelsong
BENCH-Drew Pomeranz
DL-Daniel Hudson
DL-Jorge De La Rosa
DL-Ryan Madson
DL-Michael Pineda
The trade was
Josh Hamilton for Adrian Beltre & Zach Grienke.
OfflineIn the Xtreme league yesterday (a redraft league), I traded Trout and Jesus Montero for Tulo. Didn't want to give up those guys, but you know when the summer gets going in Colorado, Tulo is going to do his 2nd half MVP act again. Plus, I had Posey at catcher too. In redraft, plenty of OF's emerge each year.
It would of been much tougher to pull off in dynasty though.
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