I am going to veto for sure, I just realized Saunders is higher than Slowey on the ESPN player rater. I hope my comish is quick enough to make the move.

ok, I got another trade proposed.

I get: Adam Jones and Javier Vazquez

I give: Joe Saunders, Ryan Ludwick, Carlos Quentin, and Ryan Doumit.

I must add that Quentin and Doumit are stuck on my DL, I need to move them before I can make a move because there are no spots open on my team. As much as i think i am giving up too much, i need to move Quentin and Doumit. I am just wondering if i should ask for more/less players. 

    Here are some notes:

— IMO Quentin is still suffering from his injury and wont have a great 2nd half.

— Doumit is a good catcher, but Pablo Sandoval is better (I only picked Doumit up as trade bait).

—I need SP help, and Vazquez is WAY BETTER when Saunders.

— Ryan Ludwick is doing good, but I like Adam Jones too (higher .AVG and SB's)

— The guy I am trading with has Ramon Hernandez as his starting catcher. He is now on the DL and may need surgery.

— My roster is the same as it was on the first post (except I dropped Porcello for Hanson)

Ya, I think i am going to persue a better offer. It has been hard for me trying to figure the value of these guys because some people may view them as "damaged goods". Saunders and Quentin are nothing special right now, but Ludwick and Doumit are red hot. I am going to try and keep Ludwick because he may have a good 2nd half. The rest of these guys don't have a spot on my team. Thanks for helping me.